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by Guest on 2022/08/01 09:49:19 PM

Hello DarkMX community, my name is anonymous,
I am writing to see where I can access the DarkMX source code, as I would prefer to build from source if I can. I consider a proprietary darknet to be a huge red flag, since how can I see whether the darknet does what it claims to be doing. Once I see that the authors are transparent in their development, and that the darknet is able keep me anonymous in situations where it claims to, I am willing to give it a try.

I have used the Tribler torrent client before and I trust it. How similar is DarkMX to Tribler? I understand that both DarkMX and Tribler use a self developed onion router similar to Tor. Tribler has a trustchain to reward power users with fast bandwidth, does DarkMX do something similar? (trustchain, Web of Trust, minimum bandwidth and storage requirements, etc) I have also used I2Psnark and the postman tracker to share files, how similar is the DarkMX experience to that? When DarkMX is complete, how will the anonymity compare with I2Psnark?

P.S. Where can I find the EULA for DarkMX?

by notaLamer on 2022/08/11 07:34:36 PM

You are prompted to agree/disagree to the license when you first start the app:
(version 1.21.1)

As with any other internet software, such as your web-browser or email client, compliance with local laws and regulations is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. You, and only you, are responsible for your actions.

This software is provided on an as-is basis, without any warranties or guarantees that it is free from defects, fit for a particular purpose, or non-infringing. The use of this software or any of the files downloaded using this software is at the sole risk of the end-user.

You acknowledge that DarkMX is ONLY a piece of software, much like a web-browser or email client, and that the creator of this software is not providing any kind of service. Any servers or content you access using this software are provided by other internet users that the creator of this software has NO control over or knowledge of. This software is fully decentralized and the creator does NOT provide any file indexing or location services for this software.

You acknowledge that this software is provided for personal use only, and you have no rights in regard to any intellectual property on or within this software. This software is the exclusive property of Tixati Software Inc.

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I consider a proprietary darknet to be a huge red flag, since how can I see whether the darknet does what it claims to be doing.

I totally agree with you. While I trust the author who has been on freedom's side for 20 years, I understand that our collective criteria has changed and privacy/cryptographic tools should be open source to be trusted. The closed nature will be a reasonable barrier to many today.

I understand that both DarkMX and Tribler use a self developed onion router similar to Tor.

I hope you do not make the mistake and think that Tribler operates its own network? Although Tribler does have tribler-only users acting as proxies for Bittorrent transfers, to me that is still more Bittorrent than what DarkMX does.
Simply put DarkMX is a kind of DC++ but made on top of Tor's hidden services. So it is 'Tor native.' It is user-to-user, it does not multiplex or combine multiple sources to download from. Basically DarkMX is a continuation of Fopnu (which really isn't much different from DC++ except it doesn't need actual hosted hubs), but DarkMX runs inside Tor instead of clearnet.

I2Psnark + postman are just a preconfigured Bittorrent client for i2p and postman is a regular tracker that only runs inside i2p? Different softwares.

Assuming the Tor implementation is correct, DarkMX should provide the same guarantees as Tor Hidden Services do. i2p has a configurable amounts of hops (tunnels) so the speed/security setting is in your hands. Considering the little user base and attention both tools have, you should be fine doing regular stuff. There's a crazier option of running i2p with 0 tunnels (afaik possible) then solely relying on lack of attention and plausible deniability (unless subject to correlation attacks via timing).

PS: I don't use DarkMX much, so if the above description is inaccurate, please excuse and correct me. My reply should provide a good overview.

how similar is the DarkMX experience to that?

DarkMX is a single peer-to-peer and I don't expect the Tor network to be a limiting factor, then your speeds are limited by you and your peer only.

by ASmith on 2022/08/16 10:40:18 PM

Tribler some years ago did in fact setup a 'Tor-Like' network, mimicking a very early developed onion routed network which are essentially sets of 3 anonymous servers for proxying and 6 anonymous servers for full hidden tor-like nodes to operate on a series of routed anonymous servers. (Public facing) Front Public, (Hidden) Guard, and the (Public facing) Exit anonymous servers.

I don't however follow Triblers development now nor for the past several years. Their initial Tor-Like network was indeed much faster than then existing Onion Network which might have relied more on 3 anonymous server groups rather than 6 anonymous server group tor hidden service operations. Remember each hop through these anonymous servers adds latency delays and Tor uses robust encryptions which add to the latency delays. I don't know what ciphers Tribler used then nor now.

Years ago, Tor devs generally were condemning of a file sharing project like Tribler using its Onion Network which of course would require a great deal of then Tor's bandwidth that was largely accommodating documents and messaging. Eventually the Tor Project gained very quick volunteer Tor Anonymous servers and the Retroshare communications chat, file, forum, channel application added that capability for Tor Proxy on its clearnet Nodes and full Tor Hidden service for Retroshare nodes routed as a tor hidden service. The Tor project didn't kick up a fuss and now there's a great many Retroshare users using the tor hidden nodes.

Years previously, I modded the Tor Source to allow me to adjust for a 2-hop Tor anonymous server circuit to gain extra needed speeds in some applications. This can help provide 500 KB/sec speeds with a lower overall security level, up from 200 KB/sec normally. Remember, a VPN is normally a 1-hop anonymous server which helps provide a wall against those attempting to harass and threaten file sharing users in many Western nations. If the DarkMX developer has cobbled together their own Tor-Like anonymous relayed network which I doubt, they could surely include a option to use fewer anonymous hops (1,2 or 3) to greatly speed up their file sharing bandwidth while keeping at least 1 anonymous server hop between them and the public IPv4 address in use.

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